Speeches of Hyo Jin Moon: Episode 14

Speeches of Hyo Jin Moon 2006-2008
Delivered Sunday at Belvedere Estate in Tarrytown, New York
Hyo Jin Moon Speaks on Can True Love Be Addictive?, Page 45

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Is it easy to feel joy? When you want to kill your enemy, destroy your enemy, you just have vengeance in your heart, every pore of your body smells that blood that you want to taste. Should I go ahead with it? There is pleasure in violence, yes. Sure, absolutely. I beat up a lot of kids when I was young. I had no choice. Look at that, I fought a lot. There's a pleasure in it—God's honest truth. Momentary, however it might be, but there is a pleasure in it. Whether you go for some kind of sports, kids go for sports, whether you become an academician or become involved in arts or whatever—kids do those kinds of stuff because they're just trying to figure out who they are. Everything is open to them and they want to feel something, and they want to feel that they earn that feeling.

I can prove something through my action. And at the same time it can be a pleasure and at the same time I can get recognition. Oh, man, that is the greatest thing. But just because you feel whatever you want to feel, which is ultimately in the end some sort of self-gratification and pleasure, does that mean that everything is allowed? Is everything allowed? That's why I think that in love there is law, right? Especially, if you truly talk about true love, there is true law. There is a very specific way in which you should feel those kinds of stuff, right? But can it be done, can it be achieved, can you condition your body, yourself, your mind—let's put away the spirit stuff as you normally don't deal with that stuff right? So, can you feel joy doing a difficult task? It's very easy to judge, but everybody has their limitations, everybody. It can differ. That's about it.

It's a funny thing when you give somebody power, they try to consume you. They don't try to recognize you, instead they try to consume you. That's the kind of phenomenon that happens almost 100 percent of the time. Never fails. Why? Maybe because some kind of envy might be involved, some jealousy might be involved, who knows. They want something that you have that they don't have. That's about it, isn't it? Why do people become criminals? You know, people call me all sorts of things. If I take something that is not mine, that's criminal, right? So, where does it end? What's right and what's wrong? When you do certain things there are consequences, that's about it. It's no different. That's why in the end everybody's equal, right, equal in that. That's about it. But is there stuff, is there order? No, I'm not going to talk about that stuff today.

Look, I'm trying to get back into the groove of things. It's been ten years, I guess, right? I mean I know it's something like riding a bike but hey, give me a break. Don't give me a hard time for crying out loud. I don't think I mislead you in any way. What you see is what you got, that's about it. You take it as it comes. Look, I had my problems. It's all my problems. Blame it on me, okay? It's easy that way. And I can live with myself. I really don't care what you think. But I'll tell you that much. That's all I think. And if it affected you, I am sorry. And it was beyond me. I understand what I have done wrong, and I know my son is listening. I want to make a difference. That's about it. That's it! That's it! Nothing else. I could care less if I don't have to ever stand here again for the rest of my life. Look, if I can live without it for 10 years I can do so for the rest of my life, trust me. Most likely I'd be better off that way. But anyway, most of all I'm grateful. This is something sacred, that's just how it is, but I'm doing it. I'm trying to do this because I want to do this for my reasons. Let me start with that. I'm not going to tell you I'm doing it for you. I'm doing it because I want to do this. That's it. I feel that I need to do this. I need to communicate something. You know what I'm saying?

What's important in making addiction work for true love? I think it's the ritual factor. You have to have some kind of ritual. You have to have some kind of rites of passage, stuff with symbolism and meaning, stuff with value, value that can last. You have to get into an expected goal and a steady routine. You have to stick the ritual stuff between that which eventually becomes routine and habituation. You have to put that something in there. Make it meaningful. You have to make some kind of symbolism work. I don't care what. It depends on you. That's because everybody's limitations are different, everybody's control factors are different. It depends on you. Make that, put that into that practice.

Ultimately, if you can make your own habit and pursue it, and begin to acquire in that a certain pleasure based on action, then when you're in that, there's, ‘hey, whatever!' Forgive that little fool that you want to kill. Today, it's a new day. You wake up in the morning, you brush up, you do the same routine eating stuff, stuff down the throat, do that. Make that into a ritual. Put it in between the routine and habit forming process. Make it something valuable. Make it something meaningful. And if you can do that one step at a time you'll find out what love is, I guess, right? You are not going to understand everything at once, are you crazy? They're the craziest people I know. You give somebody power and overnight they change—they're the sickest, they disgust me. They don't know nothing. They think they are geniuses overnight. It's crazy stuff.

Look, you want to change the world? You got to have good communication, people you can interact with, people you bounce stuff off with. That's human spirit. When you have plenty of that you can bounce off the energy and then you can really multiply. And that can be very addictive to people who don't see that stuff at the secular level, trust me.

There are a lot of good people in the secular world. But they want more too, just like you. After all, those kids out there, there's a lot of young ... teenagers. You got to know your limit and take your time. Those stupid arguments, 'how can I know my limit if I don't try.' Don't use that kind of stupid argument. A bunch of them make that, don't do it. Learn about yourself and your limit properly.

Some kid says, some second-generation, "Make me a star." It's cheaper over there. That started just recently. It took about five years to settle stuff. I put myself in some kind of, and I put myself in a kind of you know, how should I put it—anyway it was just kind of a meditated form, for him. I just wanted to disappear and do the ten thousand stuff and start at something around two thousand a month. And this boy, "Make me a star."

They really don't understand how things work. Just because you think you have something they want everything. But how can I give you everything when, if I spent the little stuff that I got, invest it in you and it doesn't pan out. That's crazy stuff. Why, if you become something, if you can artificially do something ultimately in the end for you to become a star, you have to prove it to the rest of the world just like anybody else. That's crazy stuff. They just want something and think that's it, that's the end. What's now?

Doesn't work that way. I had two cases like that, second generation. They gave up. It's too difficult. Oh my. It is nice and pretty when you were thinking that you want to be a star someday. When you go through all the stuff that you have to go through, oh, it's difficult, what, and have what, somebody else sacrifice for that nonsense, you understand me? You have to know your limit. Don't be stupid.

And think about it. It's not like, it's very difficult in that, what I'm like as Father's son, I can't do certain things, certain stuff. I can't let it be just for the sake of capitalism stuff—I can't live like this. I got a lot of flack for just investing in that boy.

Anyway, I wish you can do this right. And we will, I know. I know what's important in the 21st century. Ecumenism. Ecumenism. And that is everything in the end. Trust me. Anyways, step out of there.

You can wait, if you really love something, right? If you believe in something, right? So that's what I guess love is. Do that stuff, little stuff everyday in your own way. It matters to you and if you shine, it matters to the community. That's about it. Okay? All right, that's it.

I'll see you next week.